Why should you be unbanned?: I should be unbanned because my actions were within policy and training I have received both in the LAPD and irl. In the LAPD I went through WL training where we were taught about Tennessee vs Garner which is case law that states " the officer may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless “the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a serious threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others”. In my irl 770 hour law enforcement course use of force law was covered as was this case law. During this incident I observed the person who reported me point a black handgun at the back of two victims heads after he jumped into their vehicle. I called for assistance to attempt to save the victims and affect the arrest for the kidnapping x2, and aggravated assault x2. The suspect put the gun away and ran into a routinely occupied business during business hours. Before he entered I gave him multiple loud verbal commands to stop or he would be shot. After deploying a tazer which had no effect, he fled into the chinese buffet. At this point I had PC for serious violent felonies and I knew for certain that the suspect was presently armed and dangerous. In order to protect myself, and any potential occupants I could not see in the business I fired at the suspect to protect myself and the public. I just observed the suspect use a firearm to take two victims captive. These facts in consideration that he was presently armed and dangerous led me to believe based on my training and experience that discharging the firearm was reasonable. There's a reason his clip starts so far into the incident and the reason is he cut it to cut out the part where he pointed the firearm. I talked to the victims after and they said they observed the firearm. In reviewing my video I noticed the black gun was being held by the right front passenger. It was the rear right passenger that bailed and resisted. It was a split second situation where I had very little time to process this and react. I didn't have the benefit of hindsight or the ability to sit and wind back a video I had to act immediately. I legitimately believed the gun I saw was the one of the bailed passenger as the two in the front were hailing me for assistance. I ask in reviewing this appeal that the reviewer considers the split second nature of the decisions we have to make and I had PC at the time for serious felonies. The rear passenger was threatening the lives of the two in the front and based on the totality of the circumstances I was doing my best to protect myself and the public. The suspect stated " if I get out you die " to the victims and in the video you can hear me calling for backup as I believed it was an armed kidnapping. With all this being said, I do not believe that this falls under RDM. This was a suspect we had reason to believe perpetrated an armed kidnapping. In the clip you can hear me give him multiple loud verbal command to stop or he would be shot. Given the totality of the circumstances I do not believe that this would be unreasonable IRL, and this is absolutely not a random death match per the rules. The suspect was held at gunpoint and ran while at gunpoint. I fired to protect myself and the likely occupants inside of the business because I had reason to believe he posed a significant threat to myself and others based on the totality of the circumstances. At minimum, this wasn't a random shooting. Please let me know if you have any questions I can be reached anytime via the website or forum and will respond promptly.
Additional Members Involved/Witnessing: Answer (Optional.) HaveF4ith17 is the driver of the vehicle and one of the victims. My audio didnt pick it up but in the video you can see me interview him. In the interview he said he was in fear for his life and the suspect pointed a gun at him. The passenger who is his friend said the same.
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Why should you be unbanned?: I should be unbanned because my actions were within policy and training I have received both in the LAPD and irl. In the LAPD I went through WL training where we were taught about Tennessee vs Garner which is case law that states " the officer may not use deadly force to prevent escape unless “the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a serious threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others”. In my irl 770 hour law enforcement course use of force law was covered as was this case law. During this incident I observed the person who reported me point a black handgun at the back of two victims heads after he jumped into their vehicle. I called for assistance to attempt to save the victims and affect the arrest for the kidnapping x2, and aggravated assault x2. The suspect put the gun away and ran into a routinely occupied business during business hours. Before he entered I gave him multiple loud verbal commands to stop or he would be shot. After deploying a tazer which had no effect, he fled into the chinese buffet. At this point I had PC for serious violent felonies and I knew for certain that the suspect was presently armed and dangerous. In order to protect myself, and any potential occupants I could not see in the business I fired at the suspect to protect myself and the public. I just observed the suspect use a firearm to take two victims captive. These facts in consideration that he was presently armed and dangerous led me to believe based on my training and experience that discharging the firearm was reasonable. There's a reason his clip starts so far into the incident and the reason is he cut it to cut out the part where he pointed the firearm. I talked to the victims after and they said they observed the firearm. In reviewing my video I noticed the black gun was being held by the right front passenger. It was the rear right passenger that bailed and resisted. It was a split second situation where I had very little time to process this and react. I didn't have the benefit of hindsight or the ability to sit and wind back a video I had to act immediately. I legitimately believed the gun I saw was the one of the bailed passenger as the two in the front were hailing me for assistance. I ask in reviewing this appeal that the reviewer considers the split second nature of the decisions we have to make and I had PC at the time for serious felonies. The rear passenger was threatening the lives of the two in the front and based on the totality of the circumstances I was doing my best to protect myself and the public. The suspect stated " if I get out you die " to the victims and in the video you can hear me calling for backup as I believed it was an armed kidnapping. With all this being said, I do not believe that this falls under RDM. This was a suspect we had reason to believe perpetrated an armed kidnapping. In the clip you can hear me give him multiple loud verbal command to stop or he would be shot. Given the totality of the circumstances I do not believe that this would be unreasonable IRL, and this is absolutely not a random death match per the rules. The suspect was held at gunpoint and ran while at gunpoint. I fired to protect myself and the likely occupants inside of the business because I had reason to believe he posed a significant threat to myself and others based on the totality of the circumstances. At minimum, this wasn't a random shooting. Please let me know if you have any questions I can be reached anytime via the website or forum and will respond promptly.
Additional Members Involved/Witnessing: Answer (Optional.) HaveF4ith17 is the driver of the vehicle and one of the victims. My audio didnt pick it up but in the video you can see me interview him. In the interview he said he was in fear for his life and the suspect pointed a gun at him. The passenger who is his friend said the same.
Edited by tungusta12345